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1957 1957 American Legion Championship Atlantic City, NJ |
1958 July 19, 1958 Bayonne, NJ 1-Blessed Sacrament 91.68 2-Audubon Bon Bon's 91.00 3-St. Vincent's Cadets 89.88 4-Garfield Cadets 89.24 5-Paterson Cadets 86.74 6-Selden Cadets 81.18 7-St. Lucy's Cadets 80.87
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1959
Dover, NJ 1959
New Brunswick, NJ June 7, 1959
Jamaica, Queens
June 14, 1959
1-Selden Cadets Golden Lancers |
National Dream Contest 1959 Juniors
1. 85.85 St Kevin's Emerald Knights 2. 83.80 Selden Cadets 3. 81.95 Audubon Bon Bon's 4. 78.10 Patterson Cadets
Seniors
1. 87.350 Hawthorne Caballeros 2. 86.000 Archer-Epler Musketeers 3. 84.650 New York Skyliners 4. 84.300 Lt. Norman Prince 5. 82.500 Reilly Raiders
October 4, 1959 Baltimore Md.
1. St. Vincent's Cadets 86.40 2. Selden Cadets 82.40 3. Audubon Bon Bon's 79.80 4. Bracken Cavaliers 79.50 5. Vagabonds 77.00 6. St. Mary's Lancers 60.00 |
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1960 May 29, 1960 Livingston, NJ
August 6, 1960
Clifton, NJ
1-St. Vincent’s Cadets
87.37
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Bayonne, NJ
1-St.
Vincent's Cadets 89.18
2-Blessed
Sacrament 87.20
3-Garfield Cadets
86.70
4-Selden
Cadets
82.15
5-Audubon
Bon Bon's 79.50
6-Our
Lady of Loretto 78.55
7-St.
Patrick's Cadets 75.70
August 27, 1960
1.
84.45
St Vincent's Cadets
2.
82.25 Selden
Cadets
3.
75.95
St Lucy's Cadets
4.
74.45
Patterson Cadets
5.
71.15
Fairlawn Police Cadets
6.
70.15
Newark Woodsiders
7.
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Seniors 1. 87.350 Hawthorne Caballeros 2. 86.000 Archer Epler Musketeers 3. 84.650 New York Skyliners
4. 84.300 Lt.
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Randall's Island, NY June 17, 1961
1-Selden Golden Lancers 82.93 2-St. Vincent's Cadets 81.74 3-Audubon Bon Bon's 80.67 4-Bridgeport PAL 74.69 5-Newark Woodsiders 72.13 6-St. Vincent's Madison 71.48 7-St. Lucy's Cadets 66.91
July 8, 1961 Audubon, NJ
1-St. Vincent's Cadets 87.05 2-Vagabonds 79.00 3-Our Lady of Lourdes 75.05 4-Vasella Musketeers 72.08 5-Selden Cadets 72.05 6-Woodsiders 66.30 7-St. Lucy's Cadets 65.65
National Dream Contest 1961 Jersey City, NJ,
Sunday August 6
Juniors
1.
86.40
2.
84.50 3. 83.65 Selden Golden Lancers 4. 82.10 Bracken Cavaliers
5.
80.25
Audubon Bon Bon's
Seniors 1. 88.950 Hawthorne Caballeros 2. 87.850 New York Skyliners 3. 84.600 Archer-Epler Musketeers 4. 83.600 Reilly Raiders 5. 79.300 Pittsburgh Rockets
Bridgeport, CT August 12, 1961
Official "Unofficial" 1961 Year End Ratings
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1-85.79 Selden Golden Lancers 2-84.96 Our Lady of Loretto 3-83.32 Audubon Bon Bon's
4- 5-79.65 Woodsiders 6-77.58 St. Vincent's Madison 7-74.22 Bridgeport PAL
PENN-JERSEY
CIRCUIT CHAMPIONSHIPS Newark NJ
1. 85.34 Selden Cadets Golden Lancers
2.
84.91 3. 84.09 St. Vincent's Cadets of Bayonne 4. 79.31 Newark Woodsiders 5. 78.16 St. Vincent's of Madison 6. 77.44 Floyd Bennet Golden Eagles 7. 73.05 Bridgeport PAL Cadets 8. 72.89 St. Brendan's Cadets 9. 59.07 St. Joseph's Cadets
October 1, 1961
1. 88.78 St. Kevin's Emerald Knights 2. 86.15 St. Catherine's Queensmen 3. 85.00 St. Mary's Cardinals 4. 84.76 Selden Cadets Golden Lancers 5. 83.99 St. Mary's Majestic Knights 6. 83.62 St. Rose Scarlet Lancers 7. 82.62 South Boston Gatesmen 8. 80.59 Floyd Bennet Golden Eagles 9. 79.47 Audubon Bon Bon's 10. 76.02 Braintree Warriors
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Drum Corps News Standstills 1962 was the first year of the "Evening with the Corps at Carnegie Hall" contest sponsored by Drum Corps News. Some of the corps that appeared in that "first" were Blessed Sacrament, Garfield, St. Kevin's, Audubon, St. Catherine's Queensmen, Hawthorne Caballeros, Reading Buccaneers, New York Skyliners, Archer-Epler Musketeers and the Troy Interstatesmen. |
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Drum Corps News also ran a "double eliminator" standstill series in January - March - April of 1962. The first contest was held in the Boston Garden, and won by the Cambridge Caballeros. Qualifying for the New Haven "Finals" from that contest were the
St. Kevin
Emerald Knights, Cambridge Caballeros, IC Reveries and
St. Raphael's Buccaneers. The second 'prelim' was held at the Mosque Theatre in Newark NJ and won by the St. Catherine of Sienna Queensmen.
The other "qualifiers" were
Blessed Sacrament, Garfield
Cadets
and
The Selden Golden
Lancers.
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February 24,
The Mosque Theatre
1. St. Catherine's Queensmen 2. Garfield Cadets 3. Blessed Sacrament Golden Knights 4. Selden Cadets Golden Lancers 5. Our Lady of Loretto Knights 6. Vasella Musketeers 7. Haddon Heights Vagabonds
8.
Audubon Bon Bon's Exhibitions by the Hawthorne Caballeros &
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The "Finals" were held in the New Haven Arena on April14, 1962, with the following results:
1. 90.35 Garfield Cadets 2. 89.10 Blessed Sacrament Golden Knights 3. 88.95 St. Kevin's Emerald Knights 4. 87.40 St. Catherine's Queensmen 5. 86.40 Cambridge Caballeros 6. 85.75 IC Reveries 7. 85.00 Selden Cadets Golden Lancers 8. 81.85 St. Raphael's Buccaneers |
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May 5, 1962 Showtime Sponsored by the Skyliners at 125th St. Armory (Indoors) 1-86.25 Garfield Cadets 2-85.06 St. Lucy's Cadets 3-85.05 St. Catherine's Queensmen 4-83.71 Our Lady of Loretto Knights 5-81.88 Selden Golden Lancers 6-76.53 Blue Rock
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5 6-76.85 Fairlawn Cadets 7-75.53 St. Vincent's of Madison 8-70.03 St. Rose of Lima 9- 68.21 Neptune Shoreliners 10-66.73 St. Brendan's Cadets
1. 84.66 Garfield Cadets 2. 83.98 Selden Cadets 3. 82.04 Bracken Cavaliers
4. 81.51 5. 80.14 Woodsiders 6. 71.53 St. Mary's
Newark, NJ 1-86.91 Blessed Sacrament 2-85.94 Our Lady of Loretto 3-84.19Selden Golden Lancers 4-83.40 St. Lucy's Cadets 5-82.90 Haddon Heights Vagabonds 6-78.80 PAL Cadets 7-72.90 Floyd Bennett Golden Eagles 8-69.40 OLPH Ridgemen 9-68.60 St. Brendan's 10-61.70 St. Joseph Patron
Randall's Island, NY (Date Unknown)
2-81.94 St. Lucy's Cadets 3-79.33 Woodsiders 4-76.51 St. Rocco's Cadets 5-72.50 PAL Cadets 6-68.71 St. Brendan's 7-62.90 OLPH Ridgemen
August 4th, 1962 Clifton, NJ 1-86.52 Our Lady of Loretto 2-83.70 Woodsiders 3-83.35 Selden Cadets 4-80.67 St. Lucy's Cadets 5-77.02 Fairlawn Cadets 6-76.11 St. Vincent's of Madison 7-65.43 Neptune Shoreliners Exh. by Caballeros and St. Brendan's |
New York State American Legion Championship
Aug.
10, 1962, The Bronx, NY Juniors 1. 84.416 Our Lady of Loretto Knights 2. 81.750 Selden Cadets (3 point penalty) 3. 75.933 Floyd Bennet Golden Eagles 4. 75.550 Frankfort Starlighters 5. 73.800 St. Rocco's Cadets 6. 73.333 Magnificent Yankees 7. 72.350 Irwin Kingsmen 8. 69.233 OLPH Ridgemen 9. 68.983 St. Catherine's Marionettes 10. 62.500 Staten Island Lawmen
Seniors 1. 86.780 New York Skyliners 2. 84.480 Interstatesmen 3. 68.620 New Rochelle Wanderers
CHAMPIONSHIPS 1. 86.45 Selden Cadets Golden Lancers
2.
85.91 3. 85.57 St. Lucy's Cadets 4. 84.40 Haddon Heights Vagabonds 5. 84.13 Audubon Bon Bon's 6. 83.96 Newark Woodsiders 7. 82.01 St. Raphael's Buccaneers 8. 77.53 Fairlawn Police Cadets 9. 77.46 Bridgeport PAL Cadets 10. 74.64 St. Brendan's Cadets 11. 74.59 Floyd Bennet Cadets 12. 71.46 Neptune Shoreliners 13. 71.26 OLPH Ridgemen 14. 63.95 St. Josephs of Newark
September 23rd, 1962 Newark, NJ
1-86.80 Blessed Sacrament 2-85.60 Our Lady of Loretto Knights 3-84.90 Selden Cadets 4-84.10 St. Lucy's Cadets 5-82.90 Vagabonds (NJ) 6-78.20 Bridgeport PAL Cadets 7-75.00 Fairlawn PAL Cadets 8-69.00 St. Brendan's Cadets |
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July13, 1963
1. 88.27 Blessed Sacrament 2. 85.98 Garfield Cadets 3. 82.63 Vasella Musketeers 4. 81.90 Newark Woodsiders 5. 79.45 Selden Cadets 6. 74.83 St. Brendan's
Bridgeport, CT. 1-86.?? St. Kevin's Emerald Knights 2-82.?? Garfield Cadets 3-78.?? Selden Cadets 4-77.?? I. C. Reveries 5-76.?? Audubon Bon Bons 6-72.?? Vagabonds Exh. by Bridgeport PAL Conn. Royal Lancers
August 17th, 1963 Lindenhurst, LI NY Sponsored by the Selden Cadets Golden Lancers 1-85.20 St. Lucy's Cadets 2-84.70 Norwood Park Imperials 3-81.60 Newark Woodsiders 4-77.35 St. Rose Scarlet Lancers 5-76.85 Bridgeport PAL 6-72.15 St. Brendan's Cadets Exh. by the Selden Cadets
September 7th, 1963 Bristol, PA 1-77.85 Woodsiders 2-77.80 St. Patrick's Cadets 3-77.10 St. Raphael's Buccaneers 4-75.30 Selden Cadets 5-73.98 Bordentown Little Devils |
Sept. 15, 1963
1-87.623
Blessed Sacrament
2-85.430
St. Kevin's Emerald Knights
4-78.443
Selden Golden Lancers
5-75.036
Bracken Cavaliers
6-69.190
Belles of St. Mary's
Exh. by
Caballeros and the Hilltoppers
Wow! Two shows in one day Sept. 22, 1963 Gloucester, NJ
1- 86.05 PAL Cadets 2- 83.05 Haddon Heights Vagabonds 3-82.73 Selden Cadets 4- 79.61 Ridley Park Rangers 5- 74.37 Neptune Shoreliners 6- 69.71 Victorians
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1964
From Drum
Corps News June
3, 1964 Hawthorne, Sac Win NY Daily News Contest New York, NY. May 23. The Hawthorne Caballeros and Blessed Sacrament Golden Knights won the New York Daily News Welfare Association Drum Corps & Band Festival held here tonight in Shea Stadium. An estimated 25,000 (wow!) people watched the contest, a first time drum corps promotion by the NY Daily News. |
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Junior Prelims 1. 79.42 Blessed Sacrament 2. 78.53 St. Lucy's Cadets 3. 78.20 Garfield Cadets 4. 73.90 Hawthorne Muchachos 5. 72.02 Holy Family Defenders 6. 70.57 Conn Royal Lancers 7. 69.63 Selden Cadets 8. 67.62 Bronx Kingsmen 9. 67.27 St. Ann's Loyalaires 10. 65.00 OLPH Ridgemen 11. 55.30 Babylon Islanders 12. 42.82 St. Josephs Patron Penalties: Garfield was given a 2 point penalty for lateness. It cost them a Prelim victory.
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Senior Prelims 1. 80.780 Hawthorne Caballeros 2. 75.870 Springfield Marksmen 3. 75.680 Long Island Sunrisers 4. 74.150 Reilly Raiders 5. 71.630 Ballantine Brewers 6. 65.480 Carver Gay Blades
Finals - Juniors 1. 81.67 Blessed Sacrament 2. 79.77 Garfield Cadets 3. 78.48 St. Lucy's Cadets
Finals - Seniors 1. 83.400 Hawthorne Caballeros
2.
79.650
3.
77.370
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From Drum
Corps News July 8, 64
By
Rosemary Feliney Fitchburg MA: June 28 Scoring highs in drums and horns the Boston Crusaders won the "Drums in the Night" contest held here tonight at the Bernardian Bowl, hosted by the Fitchburg Kingsmen. Best color guard went to the St Mary's Cardinals, Best Drum Major to St Raphael's, and Best Guard Captain to the Boston Crusaders.
Exhibition by the Lt Norman Prince 'Princemen'
senior corps.
1-Boston
Crusaders
2-St.
Mary's Cardinals
3.St.
Kevin's Emerald Knights
4-
5-St.
Raphael's Golden Buccaneers
6-Pittsfield Cavaliers
7-I.C.
Queensmen
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August 1st New York State American Legion Championship Syracuse, New York Juniors 1. 77.550 Magnificent Yankees 2. 76.150 Frankfort Starlighters 3. 75.780 St. Joseph of Batavia 4. 75.016 Selden Golden Lancers 5. 73.665 Statesmen 6. 70.000 Bronx Kingsmen 7. 68.030 OLPH Ridgemen 8. 65.020 Purple Lancers 9. 62.450 Emerald Cadets 10. 62.666 Apalachian Grenadiers 11. 57.310 Lindenhurst Lindenaires 12. 55.600 Poughkeepsie Vagabonds 13. 53.180 Staten Island Thunderbirds 14. 53.033 Grey Knight Lancers 15. 51.550 Mello-Dears 16. 51.450 Lakeview Shoreliners 17. 50.016 Melodiers
Seniors 1. 82.516 Rochester Crusaders 1. 82.156 Syracuse Brigadiers 3.74.050 Rochester Grey Knights 4. 70.050 Fulton Gauchos 5. 61.166 Executives
Aug. 8, 1964 Newark NJ
The "Dream Preview"
1. 85.716 St. Lucy's Cadets 2. 85.216 Blessed Sacrament 3. 83.583 St. Kevin's Emerald Knights 4. 81.266 Selden Cadets Golden Lancers 5. 79.833 Garfield Cadets 6. 76.416 Newark Woodsiders 7. 70.005 St. Brendan's Cadets 8. 63.066 Belles of St. Mary's
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5.
62.68
Belles of St Mary's
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Sunday August 23rd, 1964 Ronkonkoma, LI NY
1. 70.260 Smithtown Freelancers 2. 68.360 Babylon Islanders 3. 67.310 Scarlet Lancers 4. 62.660 Vanguards 5. 62.060 Thunderstreak's 6. 55.260 Oceanside Legionnaires' 7. 50.280 Saxon Knights 8. 47.830 Long Island Grenadiers 9. 42.650 Riptides
Exhibition by the Selden Cadet Golden Lancers Saturday August 29th Starlight Music Festival Clifton, NJ 1. 82.866 St. Lucy's Cadets 2.81.633 Selden Cadets Golden Lancers 3. 77.416 Hawthorne Muchachos 4. 76.783 St. Patrick's Cadets 5. 75.216 Woodsiders 6. 69.050 Little Falls Cadets Exh. St. Brendan's Cadets
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1964 World Open Championships Hedges Stadium, Bridgeport CT
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Junior Prelims 1. 88.233 Blessed Sacrament 2. 88.016 Chicago Cavaliers 3. 87.730 Chicago Royal Airs 4. 87.716 St. Kevin's Emerald Knights 5. 86.616 Boston Crusaders 6. 86.658 Racine Kilties 7. 85.750 Garfield Cadets 8. 85.683 St. Lucy's Cadets 9. 84.050 Selden Cadets 10. 83.783 Bridgeport PAL 11. 83.416 Casper Troopers 12. 82.800 Madison Scouts 13. 82.416 Racine Scouts 14. 81.683 St. Josephs of Batavia 15. 80.583 St. Raphael's Buccaneers 16. 78.566 Marion Cadets 17. 78.500 Conn. Royal Lancers 18. 78.366 Starlighters 19. 78.166 OLPH Ridgemen 20. 77.750 St. Rocco's 21. 77.533 St. Josephs Patron
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Junior Finals 1. 86.250 Chicago Cavaliers 2. 84.433 Blessed Sacrament 3. 84.383 St. Kevin's Emerald Knights 4. 83.166 Chicago Royal Airs 5. 83.100 Boston Crusaders 6. 82.483 Garfield Cadets 7. 82.450 Racine Kilties 8. 78.583 St. Lucy's Cadets 9. 76.466 Selden Cadets 10. 75.183 Bridgeport PAL
Senior Finals
2. 84.350 New York Skyliners 3. 80.850 Interstatesmen 4. 80.850 Long Island Sunrisers 5. 78.483 Reading Buccaneers 6. 77.233 Springfield Marksmen 7. 76.300 Archer-Epler Musketeers 8. 71.716 Les Diplomats 9. 70.266 Connecticut Yankees 10. 66.333 New Bedford Whalers |
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1-St. Lucy's Cadets 84.75 2-Selden Golden Lancers 84.66 3-Bridgeport PAL 83.88 4-St. Raphael's Buccaneers 78.53 5-OLPH Ridgemen 76.78 6-Woodsiders 76.58 7-Audubon Bon Bons 75.47 8-Conn. Royal Lancers 73.56 9-Fairlawn Police Cadets 64.55 10-St. Brendan's Cadets 63.48 11-Babylon Islanders 61.66 12-Smithtown Freelancers 61.03 |
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July 4, 1965
Cranford, NJ 1. 83.10 St. Lucy's 1. 83.10 Garfield Cadets 3. 82.95 Blessed Sacrament 4. 79.90 Connecticut Royal Lancers 5. 71.85 Selden Cadets Golden Lancers 6. 71.10 Newark Woodsider's
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July 3, 1965 Bay Shore, NY 1. 79.500 Garfield Cadets 2. 78.183 St. Joseph's of Batavia 3. 5.383 St. Rocco's Cadets 4. 69.866 St. Joseph Patron Cadets 5. 63.733 Blue Rock 6. 60.583 St. Brendan's Cadets
Exh. by Selden Cadets Golden Lancers and the Hawthorne Caballeros
August 14th, 1965 Stamford, CT 1-St. Rocco's Cadets 76.533 2-St. Raphael's Buccaneers 75.766 3-Connecticut Royal Lancers 73.260 4-Selden Golden Lancers 64.766 5-Poughkeepsie Vagabonds 55.333 6-St. Aeden's Emerald Cadets 51.200 |
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Drum Corps Discussion Site Section
Gone but, not forgotten
Google search results:
Drum Law wants Star back...so do most of us. Sam says:<< Bring
Back Star of Indiana??? I would rather have brought back: Hawthorne Muchachos, Anaheim Kingsmen, Argonne Rebels, St Andrews Bridgemen, St Kevin's Emerald Knights, St Rita's Brassmen, Cambridge Caballeros, Chicago Royal Airs, Des Plaines Vanguard, Blue Rock, 27th Lancers,
Audubon Bon Bon's, Hutchinson Sky Ryder's, Velvet Knights, Bellville Black Knights, St Mary's Cardinals, CMCC Warriors, St Vincent's,
Magnificent Yankees, St Raphael's, Bridgeport PAL, St Lucy's , Vassella Musketeers, Our Lady of Lourdes, St Rocco's, Selden,
Our Lady of Loretto Knights, St Catherine's Queensmen & Marionettes, NY Kingsmen, and so many many more fine junior drum corps that have crossed their 'final finish lines' in the later half of the twentieth century.>> Justifiably so to the extent that they exemplify the *greater*
loss – that drum corps has suffered. And DL counters with:<< You would rather see the "Our Lady of Loretto Knights" or the "Bridgeport PAL" t
ake the field than the 1993 Star of Indiana? Lee: With all sincerely due respect for your background and experience, did you ever see Selden , Bridgeport PAL, or Loretto Knights? Or St. Kevin's, or St. Catherine's? Or St. Vincent's, or St. Rita's? Or many of the other corps Sam suggested? he needs to be cognizant of time context, relative to state of our art, when referencing. Star93, like, BD, SCV, Cavies, etc 2000 were/are evolutionary embodiments of these corps. On a very personal level, may I (again, respectfully) suggest that you try to get a hold of the Fleetwood recording of "Brass By Night". I think you will be
surprised by what you hear!!!!! |
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Ed .Note >>> NOT TO MENTION;-"Horns Aplenty" (Fleetwood FLP 2011) contains
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er internet Newsgroups > rec.arts.marching.drumcorps
"All Time Best Championships Years": Juniors, Pre DCI: 1964. The best (and most exciting) year of junior drum corps I ever saw or experienced. (Yeah, there I go again, living in the "pre tour/educational" past). There were about a dozen junior corps, East & Mid West that, could "on any given Saturday/Sunday" beat all the rest. St. Lucy's, Boston Crusaders, Blessed Sacrament, Chicago Royal Airs & Cavaliers, St. Kevin's, Racine Kilties, Selden, St Josephs, Vasella Musketeers,
Bridgeport PAL and St Mary's Cardinals & Garfield (at seasons end) and no doubt a couple more I missed, had very strong corps.. >>>pjc11251@aol.com (PJC11251) wrote:
For those of us who marched during this time period, please let me know the corps that impressed you the most.<<< My apologies - I had to expand it into the early 60's as well. 1962 - St. Catherine's Queensmen, 1964 - St. Kevin's Emerald Knights, 1965 - Vasella Musketeers, 1963 - Blessed Sacrament Golden Knights 1965 - Chicago Royal Airs, 1966 - Chicago Cavaliers, 1964 - Racine Kilties, 1961 - Garfield , 1971 - Blue Rock, 1975 - Muchachos, 1975 - Madison Scouts 1973 - Brassmen, 1967 - Boston Crusaders, 1968 - Chicago Vanguard, 1964 - Selden Cadets, 1968 - St. Lucy's , 1961 - Cambridge Caballeros
1972 - Anaheim Kingsmen, 1973 - Santa Clara Vanguard, 1975 - Blue Devils
And ANOTHER thing,.... Jimmy Edney from St. Joe's Patron,.... and Frank Buscemi from Selden.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.drumcorps 1950s: St Vincent's /Holy Name 1960: Blessed Sacrament
1961: Chicago Cavaliers/St Catherine's Queensmen
1962 Garfield Cadets/Madison Scouts
1963: Blessed Sacrament
1964: St Kevin's Emerald Knights
1965: Chicago Royal Airs
1966: Casper Troopers/Chicago Cavaliers, Boston Crusaders
1967: Boston Crusaders
1968: Racine Kilties/Boston Crusaders
1969: Racine Kilties/Chicago Cavaliers
1970: Casper Troopers/Blessed Sacrament
1971: Santa Clara/27th Lancers/Blue Rock
Include Des Plaines Vanguards, St Joes of Batavia, Caimbridge Caballeros, St Lucys, St Marys Cardinals, Vasella Musketeers, Our Lady of
Loretto, Selden Cadets , Bellville Black Knights, Argonne Rebels, St Ritas Brassmen, and probably a few more that I can't think
of at this moment as very strong competitors from this era of drum corps.
1964 - Selden - Mardi Gras March 1963,64,71,72 - Skyliners - L'il Old New York 1962 - Hawthorne Cabs - Carmen 1963 - Archer Epler - Camelot 1964 - St. Lucy's - El Conquistador
Since I also play baritone, this is my :Dream" list: William Hightower, St Catherine's Queensmen, 1961, "Tin Roof Blues/Black Bottom". John Simpson, USAF Bolling AFB DC, "Summertime", 1962.These guys performed their great, and still remembered solos on Getzen "Deluxe" GD, single valve, 'slide-on - the-side' bass baritone bugles. Bill Hightower can be heard on Fleetwoods "Brass By Night" concert recording of St Catherine's, Our Lady of Loretto, Selden , and Floyd Bennett Golden Eagles. John Simpson can be heard on Fleetwoods' double side recording of the 1962 USAF corps.
I'm partial to my era also, when drum corps was DRUM CORPS. Juniors 1964 St Kevins Emerald Knights, 1964 & 1967 Boston Crusaders, 1964 & 1968 Racine Kilties, 1963 Blessed Sacrament, 1965 Chicago Royal Airs 1961 & 1966 Chicago Cavaliers, 1968 Casper Troopers, 1968 Chicago Vanguard, 1961 St Catherine's Queensmen, 1961 & 1962 Our Lady of Loretto & Selden , 1961 Cambridge Caballeros, 1968 St Josephs of Batavia & Blue Rock, 1962 Madison Scouts
1964 St Kevin's Emerald Knights. THE GE and "comeback" program of the 1960s.
1967 Boston Crusaders. Kick ass.
1963 Blessed Sacrament Golden Knight's. The clean machine. The most precisely executed field show of the decade. 1968 Casper Troopers. The best Trooper corps of the decade. Hornline had a sound that year that they never again could duplicate. M&M was deadly. 1968 Racine Kilties: THE VFW Finals performance of the decade.
1965 Chicago Royal Airs: Truman Crawford's masterpiece. 1961/62 Our Lady of Loretto and 1961/62 Selden . Hornline's by Genero and Bunce that ROCKED. SAM Selden ; Soprano Soloists/Duet 1961/1964 "Mardi Gras March" I believe that was none other than Wayne Downey, Brass arranger for the Blue Devils! But I could be wrong..... "Michael-Stephen Dempsey" <msd@cde.com> wrote:
In response to yesterdays post.. "depressing" that addressed the number of corps that have "passed on" comparing the numbers of corps in 1972
till present...(1971 was my age out year in St Joes)...and I see a big difference. There simply aren't as many corps today.
BUT some of the attrition started just a bit before DCI ...I can think of 20 or more corps in New York alone that were prominent in
the late 60's /early 70's that have 'passed on"....I would take myself back to the 1962 Penn-Jersey Championships
1. Selden Cadets
2. Our Lady of Loretto
3. St. Lucy's 4. Haddon-Heights Vagabonds
5. Audubon Bon-Bons 6. Woodsiders 7. St. Raphael's Buccaneers 8. Fairlawn Police Cadets 9. Bridgeport PAL
10. St. Brendan's Cadets ahhh ... the memories ... Andy Lisko St. Raphael's/Bpt. PAL 58-68
NY Skyliners 69-81
I nominate: Selden Golden Lancers , St Catherine's Queensmen, Our Lady of Loretto Knights, NY Kingsmen, OLPH Ridgemen, Staten Island Lawmen, Regimental Cadets
CMCC Warriors, Knickerbockers, Wynn Center Toppers, Manhattanaire's, Floyd Bennet Golden Eagles, St Catherine's Marionettes, St Rocco's Smithtown Freelancers, Babylon Islanders, St Ignatius, St Josephs Patron, St Rita's Brassmen, OLC Ramblers.
Quick summaries of my "nominees": Hy Dreitzer: Great horn arranger for Skyliners. Really gave the corps that "concrete canyon" sound. Joe Genero -- brass arranger for Cabs and Hurcs (sometime dm, too). Brought "Carmen" to field years before SCV. One of the tops. Tommie Martin: legendary soprano soloist for St. Joe's (jr.), Air Force dc, and Skyliners. Still, IMHO, the sweetest sounding bugler (with range!) I have ever heard. Walt "Winkie" Winkleman: Colorful, crowd-pleasing dm of Skyliners. "Wild Bill" Hooton: Director of Reilly's (Philly) Raiders, whose name says it all. Bucky Swan: Another great Skyliner "screamer" sop. Jim D'Amico: Ditto for Hawthorne. The Bernert family: Founders of the Audubon (NJ) Bon-Bons, all-girl corps. Bob Bunce: Brass arranger for Selden (LI, NY) Golden Lancers, and, I believe, for the re-tuned "Latin" NY Kingsmen of late 60s.
The 1962 St. Catherine's Queensmen from St. Alban's, NY featured what I believe to be one of the best overall Junior programs for that year.
However, they did not attend the VFW or AL Nationals that year. (Their last, by the way). My question, for those RAMD contibutors from
that era: Had the Queensmen been able to attend the VFW or AL Nationals, where do you think they would have placed?
To refresh your memory Chicago won the VFW and Garfield the AL.
Andy Lisko
St. Raphael's/Bpt. PAL 58-68
NY Skyliners 69-81
Andy--and all: St. Cath's did have an excellent show example, Joe Gennaro music, Carmen Cluna drill, Bob Thompson drums. Their repertoire included" Start
of Something Big", "Exodus" and, "Theme From the Apartment". They were so good, in fact, that they tied Blessed Sac in 1961. But please don't forget my own long gone Brooklyn corps, "Our Lady of Loretto Knights" whose instructional staff was the same as
that of St. Cath's, (with the exception of the innovative mind of Don Freising on drums), and who placed second only to the great St.Kevin's in the previous year's Dream Contest, (by .7 , part of which was .4 equipment penalty). It was sad that both these corps--as well as the very entertaining
Selden Lancers--never lasted long enough to really get out to the big national shows to truly establish themselves as contenders. In both cases, the problem was financial--not everyone was as fortunate as Garfield in sponsorship. But had these two corps the chance to make it to the
Nationals that year...stuff that those of us who lived it will always speculate about. BTW EXCELLENT POST for us very oldtimers! Thank you.... Mario |
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